Based on the findings of this thread on Hummy.tv [http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/hdr-fox-t2-file-ts-editing.273/ hdr-fox-t2-file-ts-editing] this is an attempt to summarise the results and findings of that thread into a reference point for those looking to tidy up their collection of recordings.

Scope: The key minimum requirements were:

#Take native *.ts files (SD and HD) as downloaded off the box and import/load straight into the editing program
#Allow simple trims to remove lead ins/outs and advert breaks
#Output to a format that would play back on the Hummy or via a USB or network drive (with or without DLNA) without the need for additional transcoding steps

Points To Note:

*While these programs have been tried out on personal machines as part of the review process, please take whatever precautions/backups/restore points you feel are necessary before loading software on your own machine

*We looked for Freeware as a rule but during the search it became apparent that there were some very capable paid solutions out there as well as Freeware.

*The tests were carried out on files recorded on the Humax HDR Fox T2 (and using the Modified Firmware to facilitate decryption and downloading)

*It also became clear that the availability of Codecs on each individual machine played an important part in how many of the programs work - especially for Audio.

*It also transpired that changing the file extension of the Hummy files to .mp4 sometimes made them acceptable to programs that otherwise wouldn't like the .ts files, however this trick seemed to work better for SD than it did for HD and was not a guaranteed trick in all cases. Outputting to mp4 files (with H264 AAC contents) also seemed to be acceptable to the Humax both on board and across the network.

*People may find that they get or have had different experiences with the programs listed here - this probably can't be a 100% guide due to each persons machine configuration/codec support etc being different but hopefully it will help people choose the programs to shortlist for their own selections and save time by avoiding the timewasters and non starters.

== FreeWare Solutions ==

*Freemake
**(latest version 2.3.4 at time of writing) has been successfully used to trim and edit SD files once copied and decrypted off the Hummy. Smaller HD files also seem to be accepted by the software although file size vs performance makes testing very dependent on the power of the hardware. Provides sliders for long range transport and frame advance, selection of cut points, has a very good selection of predfined output formats. There is no TS format but MP4 is acceptable to the Hummy and can be customised for resolution and audio.

== Paid Solutions ==

*Video ReDo
**$47 to $96 depending on capability. This is a quick write up because quite simply it seems to be the gold standard in terms of managing the files that are produced by the HDR.
**The interface is intuitive, well laid out, allows frame by frame editing and re-saves the edited file quickly. There is a fully functional trial version available from their website. It does what it says on the tin. It really is the price that is the only negative on this solution but the return is the time saving when processing the files.There are a number of options in the overall offering - the version that caters for HD files (as well as SD) is the TVSuite H264 version coming in at $95.99. There are cheaper versions ($47 or £75) but they won't handle the HD recordings, only SD.

*Smart Cutter by Fame-Ring licensed version $40 - PLEASE READ BEFORE TRYING -
**This one turned out to be a bit of a 'marmite'. You can read the findings in full in the thread starting [http://www.hummy.tv/forum/threads/hdr-fox-t2-file-ts-editing.273/page-7#post-8769 Here (click)] (and many thanks again to fenlander for putting up with the program and me during testing) but in summary everything about this program seems to leave something to be desired - apart from how well the program handles actually doing the job of editing HD files!
**I will list the Cons first: The website could be considered untidy and certainly in broken English. The install itself is less than conventional - the default is to put the files into the C:\ drive (but you can choose somewhere else during the install), there were mixed results about the program appearing in the Start menu, and on first run what appears to be a (harmless) File Manager type program runs but is then never seen again, the Help file is in the loosest definition of the word, and there was varying success with working with multiple files/clips (ranging from not working to no problems at all).
**Now the Pro's - I only ever found that it worked! It loaded HD/SD files very quickly (even a huge 11Gig HD movie), immediately allows frame by frame navigation very responsively, easy selection of segments to keep, it worked for me with two input files trimmed, edited and output as a single ts file ready to play on the Hummy. Arguably as fast working with the HD files as VideoRedo (personally I think it was faster on screen but I couldn't test the output time in full using the trial version). A cheaper option to VideoRedo for HD capability.
**So this really is a case of how much for how much - we can only report what we have found out with this program (there was no evidence of anything malicious as far as we could tell) but I have listed it because a) for me at least the program itself did work despite all the other Cons and b) so that you can see what's been found out so far. I (and others) have tried these programs before listing them here but as with all software - please take whatever precautions/backups/restore points you feel are necessary before installing anything.

== Applications Trialled To Date ==

This list will evolve not only as programs appear, but also as they get updated to newer versions. If anyone trials these products (in relation to the scope items at the top of the page) please note your findings on the main thread [http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/hdr-fox-t2-file-ts-editing.273/ hdr-fox-t2-file-ts-editing] so we can update the sections above. I'll also try to update the relevant version numbers in the list below so we can keep track of updated versions becoming available.

*Easy Video Splitter - free - wont recognise the ts files to load
*Power Video Cutter - lost the audio in the cut version
*Ultra Video splitter - also lost the audio in the cut version
*H264Cutter - b******ered up my windows had to system restore!
*Avidemux - free - even with the audio offset the audio is always behind the video. Doesn't like HD files
*Pinnacle video spin - didn't like the file types (and loads up some sort of P2P client? boo!)
*Videopad - paid - not bad but not as free as it suggests on their website
*Freemake - free - see recommended
*Lightworks - free - professional movie industry tool - free but very hefty!
*X2X Free Video Trim - needed rename to mp4, only SD, very basic transport controls
*iWiSoft Video Convertor -
*TSConvertor - not free
*TSSniper - free - an unfinished project as far as we can tell. Very neat interface, nice to use, but audio on outputs seemed locked to MP1 audio. Also didn't like HD
*VideoReDo - paid - see Recommended
*AVSVideo Editor - paid -
*AVSVideo Remaker - paid -
*LiVES - Linux Video Editing System - a ready made Linux distro containing a variety of Media editing tools built in and ready to use. Comes as an ISO for creating a bootup disc to run on your windows machine (can also create you a USB Stick bootup version). Openshot looked promising for SD although it struggled with an HD file. More playing required?
*VLMC - VideoLanMovieCreator - from the makers of VLC Media Player - still very much Beta and experimental - one to watch if it ever progresses.
*SolveigMM AVI Trimmer+MKV - Free - is a pretty decent editor, but as its name suggests, it only works on .avi and .mkv files

== Other External Lists/Links ==

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software#High_definition_import http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software#High_definition_import]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software]
*[http://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/video-editors-h264-avc http://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/video-editors-h264-avc]

Editing HDR Recordings

2011-11-01T12:08:13Z

Oijonesey: First version

Remote Scheduling

2011-09-15T10:53:23Z

Oijonesey: /* Searching the EPG */

===New Terms===
; rs package : The remote scheduling program that runs on your Humax box (which needs to be running the modded firmware including the Web Interface package)
; http://rs.hummypkg.org.uk/ : The Remote Scheduling website that captures your schedule requirements and synchronises them to your box at home.

===Getting Started===
If you are not already running the modified firmware then please have a look at the Wiki and Black Holes threads at the top of the http://hummy.tv Forum which cover how to get started and ready to move on.

First, update to the latest version of the standard web interface and then load the rs package.

Then on the Settings page of the web interface register an email address that you will use to access the web site. In order for the service to work (and to keep track of your schedule info) it needs to pick up the MAC address from your box. This is all done as part of the initial registration process.

Check your email account that you registered with and it will confirm what your password will be, then connect to http://rs.hummypkg.org.uk/ and log in with the email address and password.

When you first log in there is some important information regarding what the site will and won't do and general Terms & Conditions to agree to before you can proceed.

This gets you to the Home Screen

To begin with it will show you the existing schedule details from your Hummy. There's also the Home button to return to this screen, Change Password and Logout buttons. Plus there is the EPG button - click this to see the EPG which will look and feel much the same as that already on the web interface.

===Scheduling a Recording===

Go into the EPG screen. Peruse the channel listings, you can click on a channel name to see the full line up for that channel. Alternatively you can use the Search or click on the down arrow to search by genre.

There is a more detailed section on searching further down or via the table of contents links.

Click on the Programme Name that you want to schedule and you will get a dialogue box with more detailed programme info, plus buttons at the bottom to record the series, just the program, or cancel.

Once this is done the Home screen will now show a section at the top called Queued Commands - at this stage these are only stored on the website awaiting a sync with your Humax. Every 5 minutes or so (or on next reboot if the box is on standby) your box will contact the site to see if there is anything to sync and if there are items in Queued Commands they will be picked up and copied over to your Humax, and then they will appear in a Pending list. There is a 'last seen' time/date stamp at the top of the Home Page so you know if the site is seeing your box.

Please note that due to the way the core Humax software works a restart of the box is then required in order for Pending items to actually take place. This is why items in the Queued Commands list also have a button for "Schedule Reboot" - if you click this a reboot command is also sent to the Humax box along with your recordings, and the box will restart itself shortly after synchronising the Queued Commands thus ensuring your recordings/changes take place.

All boxes have an auto update task at 4:30 am every morning so at worst case they wake up every morning and any Pending Items already on the box will become active. Otherwise if you have the box on standby when you are not there you may want to schedule a power cycle or two so that the box wakes up and can pick up any Queued and/or Pending items and incorporate them fully into the schedule (there is a function for this under 'Additional Commands')

Don't forget that if you have the box on standby when you make the schedule then it'll need one wake up to pick up the scheduled item(s), then another in order to successfully incorporate them into the schedule on the Humax. You can send the second re-boot along with the schedule but the first has to already be defined on the box (either the built in daily 4:30am auto update or wake up/sleep cycles you can program yourself).

===Queued Commands===

These are the things you have done on the web site. Set recordings, deleted schedules. At this stage they are only held on the website until the next 5 minute 'sweep' or your Hummy wakes up and check the site.

===Deleting Queued Items===

You'll notice the Queued items list has a trashcan icon at the end of each line and this will remove the item from the Queue and therefore wont sync with your Hummy.

===Scheduled Events on Humax===

; Pending : The Humax knows about these items, but it needs a reboot in order to save them into the schedule list on the box so that they actually work as expected.
; Active : These are all the items the Humax knows about AND will carry them out in full.

===Deleting Scheduled Items===

(i.e. those already synchronised onto the Humax schedule or in the Pending List)

I will refer to items in the Active list but this works just the same for items in the Pending List.Click on the item in the Active list on the home page, and choose the 'Cancel Event' option. This will create a cancellation line in the Queued Commands list and wait for the next sync between the site and your box.

Just like setting a recording the cancellation item will then sit in the Pending Queue on the box until a restart takes place hence you can also send along a reboot action with the cancellation just like you can with a new recording. BUT like setting a recording if your box is in standby it needs to wake up in order to sync in the first place. Less of a worry when deleting items as it's no problem to record something you now don't want anymore.

===Additional Commands===

This is found at the end of the Active list on the main page. In here you can set up a wake up/sleep event. You can use these to periodically wake the box up to check for any new actions from the website and put it back in standby afterwards. These are separate to the automatic on/off times that you can program from the on screen menus on the Humax settings menu in that you can define multiple wake/sleep events, although along with the built in early morning wake up you may only need 1 or 2 more per day.

===Recent Activity===

This is a simple view of an event log - it's not meant to be an exhaustive audit trail but it does confirm that things are happening and when they happened. You can see a more detailed list of every event tracked by clicking the More button.

===Searching the EPG===

This functionality is still being refined but it is possible to do some more complex searches i.e. for more than one search term.

You can use the following operators and rules to refine/enhance the search results

+ stands for AND
- stands for NOT
[no operator] implies OR
"two words" in quotes must appear together
+doctor +(amy tardis) - containing 'doctor' and one of 'amy' or 'tardis'.

Remote Scheduling

2011-09-15T10:51:36Z

Oijonesey: added section on searching the EPG

2011-09-13T08:56:27Z

Oijonesey: /* New Terms */

===New Terms===
; rs package : The remote scheduling program that runs on your Humax box (which needs to be running the modded firmware including the Web Interface package)
; http://rs.hummypkg.org.uk/ : The Remote Scheduling website that captures your schedule requirements and synchronises them to your box at home.

===Getting Started===
First load the rs package and update to the latest version of the web interface.

Then on the Settings page of the web interface register an email address and click on <tt>Register device</tt>

Check your email account that you registered and it will confirm what your initial password will be, then connect to http://rs.hummypkg.org.uk/ and log in with the email address and password.

This gets you to the Home Screen

To begin with it will show you the existing schedule details from your Hummy. There's also the Home button to return to this screen, Change Password and Logout buttons. Plus there is the EPG button - click this to see the EPG which will look and feel much the same as that already on the web interface.

===Scheduling a Recording===

Go into the EPG screen. Peruse the channel listings, you can click on a channel name to see the full line up for that channel. Alternatively you can use the Search or click on the down arrow to search by genre.

Click on the Programme Name that you want to schedule and you will get a dialogue box with more detailed programme info, plus buttons at the bottom to record the series, just the program, or cancel.

Once this is done the Home screen will now show a section at the top called Queued Commands - at this stage these are only stored on the website awaiting a sync with your Humax. Every 5 minutes or so (or on next reboot if the box is on standby) your box will contact the site to see if there is anything to sync and if there are items in Queued Commands they will be picked up and copied over to your Humax, and then they will appear in a Pending list.

Please note that due to the way the core Humax software works a restart of the box is then required in order for Pending items to actually take place. This is why items in the Queued Commands list also have a button for "Schedule Reboot" - if you click this a reboot command is also sent to the Humax box along with your recordings, and the box will restart itself shortly after synchronising the Queued Commands thus ensuring your recordings/changes take place.

All boxes have an auto update task at 4:30 am every morning so at worst case they wake up every morning so any Pending Items already on the box will become active. Otherwise if you have the box on standby when you are not there you may want to schedule a power cycle or two so that the box wakes up and can pick up any Queued and/or Pending items and incorporate them fully into the schedule.

Don't forget that if you have the box on standby when you make the schedule then it'll need one wake up to pick up the scheduled item(s), then another in order to sucessfully incorporate them into the schedule on the Humax. You can send the second re-boot along with the schedule but the first has to already be defined on the box (either the built in daily 4:30am auto update or wake up/sleep cycles you can program yourself).

===Deleting Scheduled Items (ie.e those already synchronised onto the Humax schedule)===

Click on the item in the Active list on the home page, and choose the 'Cancel Event' option. This will create a cancellation line in the Queued Commands list and wait for the next sync between the site and your box. Just like setting a recording the cancellation item will then sit in the Pending Queue on the box until a restart takes place hence you can also send along a reboot action with the cancellation just like you can with a new recording. BUT like setting a recording if you're box is in standby it needs to wake up in order to sync in the first place. Less of a worry when deleting as it's no problem to record something you now don't want anymore.

===Deleting Queued Items===

You'll notice the Queued items list has a trashcan icon at the end of each line and this will remove the item from the Queue and therefore wont sync with your Hummy.

===Queued Commands===

These are the things you have done on the web site. Set recordings, deleted schedules. At this stage they are held on the website until the next 5 minute 'sweep'

===Scheduled Events on Humax===

; Pending : the Humax knows about these items, but it needs a reboot in order to save them into the schedule list on the box so that they actually work as expected.
; Active : These are all the items the Humax knows about AND will carry them out in full.

===Additional Commands===

This is found at the end of the Active list on the main page. In here you can set up a wake up/sleep event. You can use these to periodically wake the box up to check for any new actions from the website and put it back in standby afterwards. These are seperate to the automatic on/off times that you can program from the on screen menus on the Humax settings menu in that you can define multiple wake/sleep events, although along with the built in early morning wake up you may only need 1 or 2 more per day.