Editing HDR Recordings

Based on the findings of this thread on Hummy.tv hdr-fox-t2-file-ts-editing this is an attempt to summarise the results and findings of that thread into a reference point for those looking to tidy up their collection of recordings.

Scope: The key minimum requirements were:

1. Take native *.ts files (SD and HD) as downloaded off the box and import/load straight into the editing program
2. Allow simple trims to remove lead ins/outs and advert breaks
3. Output to a format that would play back on the Hummy or via a USB or network drive (with or without DLNA) without the need for additional transcoding steps

Points To Note:

• While these programs have been tried out on personal machines as part of the review process, please take whatever precautions/backups/restore points you feel are necessary before loading software on your own machine

• We looked for Freeware as a rule but during the search it became apparent that there were some very capable paid solutions out there as well as Freeware.

• The tests were carried out on files recorded on the Humax HDR Fox T2 (and using the Modified Firmware to facilitate decryption and downloading)

• It also became clear that the availability of Codecs on each individual machine played an important part in how many of the programs work - especially for Audio.

• It also transpired that changing the file extension of the Hummy files to .mp4 sometimes made them acceptable to programs that otherwise wouldn't like the .ts files, however this trick seemed to work better for SD than it did for HD and was not a guaranteed trick in all cases. Outputting to mp4 files (with H264 AAC contents) also seemed to be acceptable to the Humax both on board and across the network.

• People may find that they get or have had different experiences with the programs listed here - this probably can't be a 100% guide due to each persons machine configuration/codec support etc being different but hopefully it will help people choose the programs to shortlist for their own selections and save time by avoiding the timewasters and non starters.

FreeWare Solutions

• Freemake
  • (latest version 2.3.4 at time of writing) has been successfully used to trim and edit SD files once copied and decrypted off the Hummy. Smaller HD files also seem to be accepted by the software although file size vs performance makes testing very dependent on the power of the hardware. Provides sliders for long range transport and frame advance, selection of cut points, has a very good selection of predfined output formats. There is no TS format but MP4 is acceptable to the Hummy and can be customised for resolution and audio.

Paid Solutions

• Video ReDo
  • $47 to $96 depending on capability. This is a quick write up because quite simply it seems to be the gold standard in terms of managing the files that are produced by the HDR.
  • The interface is intuitive, well laid out, allows frame by frame editing and re-saves the edited file quickly. There is a fully functional trial version available from their website. It does what it says on the tin. It really is the price that is the only negative on this solution but the return is the time saving when processing the files.There are a number of options in the overall offering - the version that caters for HD files (as well as SD) is the TVSuite H264 version coming in at $95.99. There are cheaper versions ($47 or £75) but they won't handle the HD recordings, only SD.

• Smart Cutter by Fame-Ring licensed version $40 - PLEASE READ BEFORE TRYING -
  • This one turned out to be a bit of a 'marmite'. You can read the findings in full in the thread starting Here (click) (and many thanks again to fenlander for putting up with the program and me during testing) but in summary everything about this program seems to leave something to be desired - apart from how well the program handles actually doing the job of editing HD files!
  • I will list the Cons first: The website could be considered untidy and certainly in broken English. The install itself is less than conventional - the default is to put the files into the C:\ drive (but you can choose somewhere else during the install), there were mixed results about the program appearing in the Start menu, and on first run what appears to be a (harmless) File Manager type program runs but is then never seen again, the Help file is in the loosest definition of the word, and there was varying success with working with multiple files/clips (ranging from not working to no problems at all).
  • Now the Pro's - I only ever found that it worked! It loaded HD/SD files very quickly (even a huge 11Gig HD movie), immediately allows frame by frame navigation very responsively, easy selection of segments to keep, it worked for me with two input files trimmed, edited and output as a single ts file ready to play on the Hummy. Arguably as fast working with the HD files as VideoRedo (personally I think it was faster on screen but I couldn't test the output time in full using the trial version). A cheaper option to VideoRedo for HD capability.
  • So this really is a case of how much for how much - we can only report what we have found out with this program (there was no evidence of anything malicious as far as we could tell) but I have listed it because a) for me at least the program itself did work despite all the other Cons and b) so that you can see what's been found out so far. I (and others) have tried these programs before listing them here but as with all software - please take whatever precautions/backups/restore points you feel are necessary before installing anything.